The Secret: The Law of Attraction Backfires on David Schirmer...

Date: 1 Aug 2007 / Category: / Views: 5798 / Comments: 29

The Secret: The Law of Attraction Backfires on David Schirmer...

About two months ago I posted an article on this blog about an interview the Australian news program "A Current Affair" did on "The Secret's" David Schirmer and how he had been accused of ripping people off financially.

Little did I know the amount of heated emotion the article would attract from people who had dealings with David Schirmer!

To read the thoughts and opinions of those who have had dealings with David Schirmer go to this article and scroll to the very bottom where the comments section is: click here

This is what David himself says about The Law of Attraction:

"When things don't go as we expect them to, it is a sign that our subconscious needs to be reprogrammed in that area. We must accept that whatever is our result we created it, even if we don't understand how or why.

Then rather than spend time trying to figure out why, who, what etc, spend that energy on creating EXACTLY the life you desire.

We create our own circumstances, more importantly you get to create your future circumstances as well ... now that's exciting!!".

- David Schirmer

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29. John | 11 Apr 2008 - 01:02

Well to end the week on a most brilliant note, this is how David Schirmer answered the question in the book he is trying to flog WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE in which by the way, he wrote a whole TWO PAGES!! of his apparent wisdom.

Who Do You Think You Are?

"I am one of the most successful stock and commodity traders in the world and one of the most brilliant minds on the Law of Attraction."

Permit me to vomit, the guy is a deluded sociapath (http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html) who is about to get his comeuppance for being such a royal ass. That shows the level of his serious delusion. When he can show any proof at all of his ability to even trade the market successfully then he will have a few ears. Until then he has successfully deluded himself to truly believe he is the best in the world.

Enjoy the laugh!

28. Anon | 29 Nov 2007 - 22:24

I believe THE SECRET is a paradox of deluded greed and senseless emotional ruin. People like David Schirmer NEED and are desperate for recognition. They try to multiply their possessions but have absolutely no values. They have learned how to make a living, but don't have a life. They add years to life not life to years. They have narrow viewpoints and do larger things but not better things. They think they are big men but have very small character. They talk more, but learn less. They plan more, but accomplish less. They rush, but not wait. They focus on steep profits and have shallow relationships. They seek fancier houses but have broken homes. They make quick trips, have throwaway morality, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything. They have much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom....

How postively TRUE!

27. Dean | 16 Sep 2007 - 18:03

Thanks voodooman. I know this guy and he cannot be trusted. Until he pays up everyone he owes I would not recommend anyone get involved with him. Some of his products are good but they are mostly other peoples stuff so you can get it anywhere else on the web. He's in deep shit this time.

26. Voodooman | 14 Sep 2007 - 23:25

The LAW OF ATTRACTION is working in perfect harmony with the UNIVERSE for the person called DAVID SCHIRMER.

It looks like he's really in trouble now. www.schirmerexposed.co.nr has some interesting stuff on it.

25. Wontbefooled | 12 Sep 2007 - 03:00

This is the group that David Schirmer is aligning himself with in an attempt to get into the US market.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/searchresults.asp?q1=ALL&q5=Learning
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WHO COULD HAVE GUESSED, partners in crime ....

TO DO: Must make sure the US is forewarned that Schirmers Shit is about to hit town or did it hit earlier this year but got farted out.

24. Anon | 10 Sep 2007 - 21:21

Ooooh RHM resigned huh, that's interesting news.....

23. Anon | 10 Sep 2007 - 21:20

Schirmer is at it again lying thru his back teeth. Now he’s saying he’s done the firewalk with Tony Robbins 8 times but he hasn’t even been to to the seminar 8 times. What a wanker and caught out lying yet again Schirmer. Just can’t help yourself can you.

And honestly, who the hell needs to go to a Anthony Robbins seminar 8 times? What does that say about it and you? You need to spend half your house attending Tony Robbins seminars because it’s impossible to get it anything of any value the first time? You aren’t considered a wanker until you’ve been 7 times. You have something to prove by saying you have been to the seminar 7 times. You are so thick that you want to spend your entire hard earned cash on temporary feel good seminars? Then you really should be considered a poor soul. You are a seminar junkie and just can’t help yourself? You think by going to a Tony Robbins event that he’ll call you his best pal and pay your bills for you?

Schirmer will only go to Tony Robbins if he can go FREE! If he doesn’t go FREE then he is yet again STEALING FROM OTHERS by spending money on himself rather than PAYING HIS DEBTS.

Schirmer, you are simply so deluded that you think the whole world wants to know what you’ve shit in the toilet bowl this morning.

Get a life Schirmer, you are like a pimple of puss that the entire population is seeking a solution to be rid of.

22. Anonymous | 10 Sep 2007 - 20:30

Schirmers righthand man has just resigned - can't begin to imagine why? wassat

21. Penny | 10 Sep 2007 - 16:24

I came across the secret in a book store and found Schirmer as the only australian apart from the author. What I am finding very disturbing that one person can create such an amazing amount of negativity and be included in something like the secret. I think he is a hypocrite and should walk away or be forced to walk away from the personal development industry. David Schirmer is causing more hurt by continuing along his greedy path to self gratification and it looks like he doesn’t care in he least. I believe his stubborness and greed will be his downfall because he is losing more and more respect every day and every time he tries to take from others. That was the problem in the first place apparently so doing more of the same is not going to change the results. Even David Schirmer should know that and I think he even said that somewhere. I think he needs to walk away and give everyone time to heal and himself time to be calm and make a committment to each person. I guess that is what the most ethical people do but I’m not sure David Schirmer understands what ethics are. Maybe it will take the enforcement of the law to make him come to his senses. I do know that the Australian authorities are very serious when it comes to people fleecing the community like this and I believe David Schirmer is well above their radar right now so there is hope that everyone will see justice after all.

20. Julie | 10 Sep 2007 - 00:54

Do you know what is even more incredible about Schirmers email about Tony Robbins is that he even admits to USING OTHER PEOPLE way back then. He USED PEOPLES CAR, he USED PEOPLE FOR PETROL, he USED PEOPLE TO GET INTO THE EVENT. How incredible NOTHING HAS CHANGED so why the hell would anyone want to be associated with Schirmer?

And do to top everything off he DIDN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HIS FAMILY. They were home struggling no doubt and schirmer was off having a blast FOR HIMSELF. You have got to laugh at this guy because his intentions are just so obvious in everything he writes. I refuse to go to any of his workshops becuase he is incredible dishonest and just USING HIS CLIENTS to get another FREE TICKET TO TONY ROBBINS.

I had to shout to make sure I was heard after the last two posts. Schirmer is evoking more and more negative emotions daily one day soon this is all going to blow up in his face in the biggesst possible way. What an incredible fool.

19. John | 10 Sep 2007 - 00:17

For Christs sake Schirmer, who the hell gives a shit whether Tony Robbins helped you or not the fact is YOU HAVE STOLEN FROM PEOPLE AND REFUSE TO RETURN WHAT IS NOT YOURS. Until you get that through your head your business will suffer. Interesting how you quote that you have made sooooooooooo much money but where the hell is it you idiot? If you have made so much WHY ARE YOU SO IN DEBT? Why do you owe all these people so much money. Quit the lies and come clean otherwise suffer the consequences you idiot.

18. Anonymous | 9 Sep 2007 - 20:36

SCHIRMER BLOODY SCHIRMER, WHAT A COMPLETE AND UTTER FOOL YOU ARE.....

DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE TIME TO HEAD BACK TO THE MANUFACTURING BUSINESS AGAIN - OH THATS RIGHT YOU RIPPED EVERYONE OFF THERE ALSO SO YOU'RE NOT WELCOME THERE. WHAT ABOUT TRADING - NO YOU'VE RIPPED ALL THOSE PEOPLE OFF. HOW ABOUT WEALTH COACHING AND MIND STUFF - OH SHIT YOU'VE RIPPED THEM OFF ALSO. OH I KNOW GO AND PREACH BROTHER, YOU MIGHT HAVE LESS TEMPTATION THERE BUT JUST LEAVE THE COLLECTION PLATE TO SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE YOU SURE AS HELL CAN'T BE TRUSTED.

17. | 8 Sep 2007 - 22:19

It’s no surprise that the secret has many more secret’s. I’ve just found out that Dr. Joe Vitale a teacher featured in the secret is not an actual doctor. He just gave himself that title inorder to build credibility. Why am i not surprised. That’s exactly what david did when he said he was worth millions. Credibility in an Internet Marketer (Scammers) best friend it allows them to get peoples trust and more importantly their money. I’ve searched the internet and consulted with professors at Local Universities - There is no such thing as a doctorate in Metaphysical studies which Joe Vitale claims to have. God, I feel sorry for all those poor people that invested with him after watching the secret.

Since this is new news, I’d appreciate it if some of you spread the news just like you’ve done with David Schirmer to prevent other unsuspecting people/investors from getting burned.

Also while we are on the subject I’ve done some digging behind Michael Beckwith another teacher in the secret and cannot find any information on the doctorate he claims to have…I really hope he didn’t fake his doctorate to gain popularity…he was my favourite teacher.

It seems like the LOA has ultimately back fired on the Secret Teachers and Rhonda Bryne. Reminds me of the saying “The Hunter has finally become the hunted”. For the people these guys have conned I hope they spend and eternity in hell.

I apologize for my language but I’ve lost a ton of money to these people and I’m not to happy about it.

16. | 8 Sep 2007 - 22:17

Noted quantum physics expert Scientist Bob Proctor and his pals, as well as nearly 2,000 personal-growth junkies, are taking over an entire ship in October! The Reverend Michael Beckwith, is going to be on board as well, raising the vibe by perpetrating a special meditation every morning. Also appearing will be several other renowned hustledorks self-help stars whom Scientist Bob is raving about but most of whom, frankly, I’ve never heard of.

Alas, for some reason, it doesn’t look as if Bob’s former co-hort, Aussie Secret star David Schirmer, is going to be on board. And the two of them were so good together! (Check out the ACA Interview online where David was exposed for FRAUD in Australia - Bob and David are now being investigated by the Australian Securities Commission for Breaking the Law and fooling/stealing for Investors. Many of their company’s have been suspended and the they may face jail time and a hefty fine. Bob and david are both partners in the SGR Program).

On the cruise Bob will also be featuring New Thought star Mary Morrissey, whose husband Edward served prison time for laundering money and using funds from his wife’s church for personal expenses, so maybe there will be something of a sense of continuity. (It should be noted that Mary herself was never charged with a crime, and I am sure she knew absolutely nothing about what Eddie was up to.) Anyway, according to the Son of Bob - Brian Proctor, “Mary Morrissey will be on board to do a program with Bob Proctor that will be introduced for the first time on the ship.” Here’s more info about what will be happening when the Self-Love Boat sets sail.

There will be plenty of opportunities on the cruise for you to learn how to get rich quick, or, even more important, make Bob and his friends richer. F’rinstance, there will be an opportunity to get in on Bob’s Science of Getting Rich program (Which is an Illegal MLM Scheme). And there will be all sorts of additional programs, products, and services to help you max out your plastic.

No doubt about it, the Mexican Riviera will never be the same. In fact, with a couple thousand aggressively self-improving folks on board, who knows what profound Earth changes will occur? The resulting vibes could be overwhelming; this might just be the event that causes not only California, but the entire West Coast of North America, to finally break off and sink into the ocean.

And even if that doesn’t happen, there’s something else that might be a red flag for the potential cruiser: the possibility of body-snatcher or walk-in situations. If you watch the video on the site I linked to above, you’ll hear Scientist Bob saying that he guarantees that each person who walks up that gangplank onto the ship will be a completely different person by the time he or she disembarks.

So I’d be careful if I were you.

PS ~ Some lyrics that popped up in my head…(the doors - Ship of fools)…

15. Peter | 8 Sep 2007 - 21:51

Thanks David, smart advice and thoroughly recommended.

14. David | 8 Sep 2007 - 17:26

Why is David Schirmer selling the Life Success products through his own company? I considered this opportunity a few years ago and I thought the investors are taking legal action over this because they have not had a refund of their investment or any profit share while Schirmer has been publicly boasting of millions of dollars of profits. Is this another example of Schirmer ethics or just a sign of desparation? I would advise anyone to contact the media to find out who the investors are and speak to them before they pay David Schirmer anything for the affiliate opportunity he is offering through his Wealth By Choice company. I also think that anyone interested in any of Schirmers products should investigate whether he has a license to sell the products he is offering including the music and the books. In the end if you buy these opportunities you are responsible for what you are selling to the public and what music you are using and what you are saying. Be very careful, this guy has shown that he has no ethics and is apparently being investigated as well as having legal action taken against him. The investigation process is slow but the action will be swift and you don't want to be caught up in it after outlaying thousands of dollars for nothing. You have time to investigate and remember investigating is not asking David Schirmer what the truth is, he is a salesman and will only EVER tell you what he wants you to know because he needs your money to finance his lifestyle. He has obviously shown no intentions of paying anyone back the money that he owes. Be smart because if you get involved with Schirmer, you are going to need to be.

13. Patrick | 6 Sep 2007 - 20:41

Thanks for the heads up on the links everyone, i'll go there too!

12. Patrick | 6 Sep 2007 - 20:39

SCHIRMER IS SOLICITING FOR BUSINESS PARTNERS!!! You can join him in an affiliate opportunity with his company Wealth By Choice Pty Ltd?

Schirmer is charging $10,000 for the incredible privilege of having a wealth creation business with him selling Life Success products through yet another company. How absolutely positively incredibly laughable is that. This guy can’t even pay his investors back, or the people who have worked for him, or his traders or suppliers and he is now asking people to join him for an incredible once in a lifetime opportunity to spread his message. Oh and there are only 15 places so you better hurry. For someone who owes so much money you'd think he would take all he could get to get everyone off his back but in typical Schirmer style crap crap and more crap. His ego is going to destroy him, just watch.

I can only imagine the publicity that this is going to get and I don’t think he’ll be appreciating it just like everyone who he owes money to are not appreciating being involved with such a bastard. Should be fun watching this next episode when it takes place.

Choose a different business you fool, who is going to take you serious in wealth creation business when you can't even pay your debts.

Schirmer is completely and utterly deluded. He finally just publicly proved it.

11. MichaelB | 6 Sep 2007 - 00:05

http://davidschirmer.blogspot.com/

10. MichaelB | 6 Sep 2007 - 00:04

www.schirmerexposed.co.nr

9. Paul | 4 Sep 2007 - 19:59

Well well the market ain't peaked yet so what was with the high on 4 September??????? Is that why Schirmer can't explain the trading fund? He probably lost it all trading and some explanations would be helpful because people who understand this stuff really to give a rats arse about what people like Schirmer are saying to hoodwink the public. If his analysis was correct, then where's the money?

8. Pia | 2 Sep 2007 - 19:35

I have no idea whether Schirmer has paid his traders because that is one part of his business that I have not had anythign to do with but I am very concerned about Schirmers attempts to link the secret and the bible.

First Schirmer needs to learn how to be a model citizen and to do that he would need to pay everyone back the debts that he owes, then he would need to seek forgiveness, then he would need to believe and follow the bible. To do all of this is beyond Schirmers EGO and PRIDE. He has so far shown pure arrogance and lack of ethics and he must suffer the lashing that he is getting in the press. That is his lot because of what he has done to some beautiful people. He will not like it becuase his EGO and PRIDE will be hurting and no doubt he will fight it within himself. Anythign he does from now on will be scrutinised completely by the press and the people he owes anythign to. His deliberate attempts to hide the truth has only been exposing him more and more.

Whatever he owes his traders, he needs to come clean on otherwise it is seen as a deliberate attempt to mislead and manipulate people for his own good. I guess anyone who has suffered at the hands of Schirmer can tell us that. For me, I can't stand the guy, he is so deceitful and dishonest in my view. To make promises on national TV and then make a complete fool of yourself by not following through, what does he expect?

7. Paul | 27 Aug 2007 - 02:23

And as usual Schirmer has a bet each way in his all ords report and blind freddy can see what he's up to. He thinks the uneducated won't realise it but to the people that know this stuff it shouts at. He can't trade because his 123% in the two years he traded the traders fund was the best in history yet he claims to be the most successful technical analyst in the country. Get a grip Schirmer or perhaps you've had too much of a grip. Just ask Schirmer for some proof of his trading and see what answer you get. What sort of an fool would believe him and buy anything from him now. His program only works in a bull market so it's crap right now and won't be worth the paper it's written on soon.

Like you say Schirmer, come clean, take responsibility for what you have done and face the music otherwise you will suffer as a wanker from now on.

Has he paid his traders back yet?

6. JJ | 26 Aug 2007 - 23:41

In the writing industry one of the most important characteristics is ETHICS, David Schirmer appears to have none. I don't need to say anymore, everyone has said enough. I am simply disgusted.

5. Penny | 25 Aug 2007 - 02:40

Oooh Aaaah David Schirmer really does have some SECRETS. This could get interesting.

I believe in God but I do not believe that Schirmer has any right to equate himself with God or even speak of such things. He has no credibility in my view.

4. PROFESSING GODLINESS | 25 Aug 2007 - 01:53

Hear ye Hear ye, David Schirmer is now claiming to be an expert on the Bible, heaven forbid. I have some very serious questions for him and I am grossly offended that such an arrogant and dishonest person could be such a fool as to try to justify what he has done by preaching to people about what is right and wrong according to God.

1. Where in the bible does it say Schirmer that it is acceptable to STEAL from other people? Yes that is what you have done, you have chosen and evidently very diliberately, to take from others for yourself. You set up new companies, close companies down, right off the debts, open new companies and siphon the money off for yourself. Interesting concept but not real legal it seems but we'll leave that matter to the law to deal with.

2. Where in the bible Schirmer does it PROMOTE SELF AND SELFISHNESS? You can't help yourself in fact I think you dream about David Schirmer you are such a sad man and yes, we really do feel sorry for you because you are so blinded by yourself and your lies.

3. Where in the bible does it say Schirmer that men who persistently COMMIT ADULTERY are acceptable to God? And where I ask does it say Schirmer that it is ok to have multiple partners at the same time? Be careful now some things might come out that you might not want your mommy or your wife to know about. I'm sure this has been a problem in every country you've been in...... How insulting, how insensitive and how outragreously crazy are you?

4. Where in the bible Schirmer does it say that GREED is an acceptable quality of any christian? Why have you taken from people who helped you and refused to return what is theirs? Oh yes, I know a bit more than you might think I do, you have done wrong to a lot of people and all the while lied about your real position. Thank heavens that most of the population are honest and don't follow what you recommend.

5. Where in the bible does it allow you Schirmer to have POWER OVER OTHERS. No matter how powerful you might feel or how much your ego is enhanced standing on stage and professing such heady knowledge, you are, in the eyes of everyone you have stolen from, a very weak sad individual. In the eyes of God you are no better than the man in the gutter. Rather humbling don't you think?

6. Where in the bible does it allow you Schirmer to FORCE YOUR OPINION ON OTHERS? Why should anyone take your opinion as truth honestly, after what you have done and so publicly too? You have not once proven anything that you have said to be true. You lie, you cheat, you steal and you know it, so why should anyone listen to you, come on?

7. Where in the bible does it allow you Schirmer to PUT OTHERS DOWN because what others think or do is not according to what you believe or think. This is an interesting one Schirmer because you are a very egotistical man, you really do have a problem accepting others opinions particularly of you. Was it you who said other peoples opinions of me are none of my business? Sadly nothing you have said or done tells anyone that you really believe it. If you did you would simply make amends and go on your way.

8. You are NOT a man of God, you are a very evil individual who is being judged very harshly because of your sinful and wickedly deceptive ways. Your interpretation of The Secret is a very dangerous and deceptive attempt to manipulate people into thinking that they need much more than God. You are attempting to set up a cult gathering by having people think you are right and following you by hanging off your words. Thank God they don't hang off your actions because we'd have a very sinful generation indeed. Guess you wouldn't have to explain anything then. Don't you realise that way you responded on the interview on Australian TV where you sucked your lips ever it gave the whole world full view of your egotistical arrogant manner.

David Schirmer would like you to believe that you need his DVD's in order to understand any of this stuff. The truth is that the BIBLE has all the answers and anything anyone needs concerning your life and the conduct of your life. David Schirmers interpretation of such things is his alone and what he is doing is attempting to justify all the hurt, solicitation, dishonesty, manipulation, greed, envy, anger, hate, jealousy, stealing, adultery, aggravation, did I mention adultery, that he has caused in his life and ~~continues to do now~~. He will never know true peace until he finds peace within himself and everyone who has been hurt by him will not forgive until David Schirmer humbles himself enough to admit that he might have got it wrong.

Schirmer if you want to preach, get rid of your worldly posessions and preach, I mean really preach but first, you have to ask for forgiveness and with what is on your conscience I'm not sure even you believe that is posssible.

HUMBLING REALLY ISN'T IT?

This is precisely where DAVID SCHIRMER comes unstuck. He has lied, cheated, defrauded, stolen, gossipped and promoted his own opinion as being the only right one and shunned others for theirs. DAVID SCHIRMER WHEN YOU CAN COME CLEAN ON EVERYONE, PAY EVERYONE BACK LIKE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO AND HAVE STOPPED ALL OF THE ABOVE YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE OF BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY. Until then, you Schirmer, are just a little man who will be treated like everyone else because you have chosen to place yourself in the position of God. I have no doubt that THE LAW OF ATTRACTION is at work on your life Schirmer because I think the position you are in right now might not be quite as pleasant as you would like. You choose to take the place of God no matter how much you try to justify it then God will see to it that you get the lessons in life that you must have. Sobering thought isn't it Schirmer!

SCHIRMER, YOU WILL BE JUDGED BY GODS LAW, YOU CANNOT AND WILL NOT ESCAPE THAT NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY TO JUSTIFY YOUR ACTIONS.

3. Peter | 24 Aug 2007 - 00:18

Admitted by David Schirmer himself. The following was taken from a youtube video. laughing

TheMarketingGroup (5 months ago) Who are these clowns ?
dgschirmer (5 months ago) Where have you been? Hiding under a rock ... watch The Secret DVD and find out how these 'clowns' are part of a world wide phenonomen! You could learn a lot about marketing.

Says it all doesn't it! ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY AND THAT'S WHY IT BACKFIRED.

2. Dom | 23 Aug 2007 - 16:18

Today is DDay for David Schirmer and there are a lot of people watching.

This is what the secret IS in my opinion:

a) A massive marketing campaign designed to line the pockets of the teachers NOT help the masses.

b) An evil form of human seduction and emotional manipulation.

Not one of the teachers on The Secret are making REAL changes to humanity despite boasting about making their millions. If they are, wheres the proof?

Where are the Mother Theresa's the ones who are willing to live ample but humble lives and gift their excess successes to the needy? Instead they choose to tell the needy that they created their own problems so get off your butt and fix it up. Try telling that to a small child in Africa with aids. This is the most evil that mankind can be and by the looks of it, the only reason why he talks like this is because he has nothing to give because he has spent it all living a pretentiously wealthy lifestyle. Lets see if he can prove that one wrong today.

We all hope that Schirmers wrongs can be righted and that MUST start today otherwise David Schirmer should be seriously under investigation by everyone not just the authorities. For the Schirmers to continue successfully now is almost impossible according to the laws he feels compelled to egotistically preach when all the evidence shows that he knows bugger all about any of it.

1. Pam | 23 Aug 2007 - 00:29

I looked here the other day and didn't see the comment post.

David Schirmer is due to make his first payment on FRIDAY 24 AUGUST and everyone is watching.

I hope he can do it for everyones sake but I think this guy is a real liar. Nothing he has said in his marketing looks like it's true and all he does is preaches at people instead of fixing the problem which I think even the converted are sick of. Is he not really normal?

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